I bought my first pair of the sandbagger shoes from eBay. The leather was of those shoes was so hard and the shoes were totally uncomfortable. I thought that they must be the fake knock off shoes.Fastforward, The golf shoes nowadays look like sneakers. so, I was looking for a non-sneakers style. Upon seeing the shoes, I decided to give Sandbagger another tried. these shoes fit true to size and I love the style. However, the leather is still kind of hard and are not comfortable as my Ecco shoes. Plus to gold trim starts to come off Even with me just walking around on the carpet at home. Sadly, I have to return them.